Content Warnings: murder, suicide

Southern and McClintock in Tempe, Arizona.
A murder-suicide allegedly over a love triangle.

What type of monster shows up at a guy’s apartment, rings the doorbell, and then kills him on sight before killing himself?

The answer might surprise you.

This episode goes into the second half of the interview with the murderer’s mother after Wendy details how she first met him.

Host: Wendy Fink
Guest: Denise 
Content Warning: Chris Fink
Sting: “Yessum” by Jingle Punks
Music: “Court and Page” by Silent Partner
Editor: Chris Fink, Wendy Fink

A Message:
Please remember that there are confidential resources available for every person, situation, conversation style for you or anyone you know struggling with mental wellness. You are not alone. Talk to someone. Anyone. Hell, even a kind stranger on the Internet. Do your research and know that you can reach out on someone’s behalf even if it’s a suicide hotline. Don’t lose hope and never give up.

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline:
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline ( is a 24-hour, toll-free, confidential suicide prevention hotline available to anyone in suicidal crisis or emotional distress. It provides Spanish-speaking counselors, as well as options for deaf and hard of hearing individuals. It is only available in the United States. A 24-hour an Online Chat in partnership with Contact USA is also available.
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline can be reached at 1-800-273-8255. This is for the United States. If you’re in another country, there are resources for you, as well. You’re not alone. Help is out there.